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Second edition. May, 2025.

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Note: This book is not character enhancement. I don’t read much. If that sentence makes you feel less shameful about not reading books.

Note: Early learning is indeed one of the uses of this book.

Introduction

A person may feel that the entire world is available to scold him, spur him on, and improve his character. I don’t mean that the world is not easy to survive in, so he feels the need to strive. But everything in the world is an inspirational story and something that can make him feel ashamed. People who are better than him are role models, people who are worse than him are warnings, people who are luckier than him are the reasons for his efforts, and people who are less fortunate than him make him aware of his privileges. Pink is the color of pigs, who lose their lives but become an excuse for self-indulgent humans; orange is the color of the sun, which sacrifices its fuel to shine. The movement of every water molecule on Earth is an inspirational story, not to mention the toil of waterworks workers.

Religion, traditional culture, and inspirational gym slogans are just a few of the topics covered in this encyclopedia.

To demand that a person have the same ideology as you just because they live within many kilometers of you and pay taxes to the same government, I find it hard to understand why anyone would find that necessary. Then again, I’m seeking your approval here, and you’re even further away, elsewhere on this ball, except I don’t feel like I’m applying pressure.

When I run into some people who are also pressuring others, it will be possible for me to make them not do that, even though they are near you, or as far away as you are.

This article is not much of a doctrine. The thing is merely that it is more or less subject to your choice if you read it and it makes you feel better in the moment, or it gives you some tools to persuade others, or I persuade you, or you at least become aware of other possibilities because of it.

You still go there, just don’t let them punish you

School is bad

You should do homeschooling

You still go there, just don’t let them punish you

Just only do homework and classes you think are useful

Don’t let teachers punish you

Talk with ur parents about it

try it

some people dont try that. people think if a child tastes freedom then they’ll be bad.

try it

At Least Try It

Give it some time.

We cannot allow schools to continue. Adults have forgotten what it’s like to be in school, the rules, the discipline, the motivational speeches, the scary atmosphere, and not a single person thinking “You are always allowed to make decisions for yourself without shame. You can leave this room at will.” It’s not just a matter of reducing workload and school time; people are just playing on their phones after school, hiding from trauma and feelings of self-doubt. Kids are adults, and the worst kids are adults who happen to drink too much. People need to stop thinking reflexively of school, of “the habit and spirit of discipline,” of reprimands and punishments. People should study at home and maybe go to some near-random classes on some near-random days just out of necessity and without the threat of punishment. You should hold the other person, ask him what learning content he thinks will be useful to him, ask him how he is feeling recently, remind him to do something he really needs to do, lie next to him playing on his phone, and ask him “Do you want me to remind you?” You give a lot, but you are his roommate, a really close roommate. If you become his roommate, he will love you naturally. If people have to know math or something before going to college, then study a few more years before going to college, or just skip a lot of stuff that is useless and you don’t want to learn.

A Subtlety

He said character education depends on how old you are. I don’t know what he was referring to. If he was referring to propaganda for altruism, that’s one thing. Or, he was referring to the publicity given to you in a situation that you are willing to accept, which is also one thing. However, if you are not willing to accept, for example, the school conducts motivational lectures, does it mean that if the student is young, you can demand students to listen to it; You feel ashamed, or feel something else, and, you don’t want to go, does it mean that if you are young, the school may not allow you not to listen; Does it mean this kind of motivational lecture can be mandatory for young people just like homework. I don’t know what he thinks. What worries me about this is that what I hate is treated as something that can be conditionally accepted, even as something that people have the right to hate and leave, but have no right not to suffer at all.

This thinking, first of all, is a compromise in terms of duration. Second, if you demand that people have to go through it before they can hate and leave, then you are only allowing the act of hating and leaving, not the content that people are opposing. You may be thinking, what if people are forced to think about and accept it? But if you think so, you can’t tell those who oppose it that you support them. If you think they hate and leave too eagerly, then you can say so. You can’t first say that you support them, and then say that you don’t actually support their content, but feel that the hateful behavior (strictly speaking, attitude) is supported by you.

Don’t constrain me to improve my character!

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Maybe it’s just reminding you of the old days when you were young, others were controlling you, and you didn’t have much pressure to survive or a chance to change the fact that you were controlled, so you gave up and it strangely made you feel better because you gave up and stopped.

I’ll go a bit further and say that the psychological good can probably be achieved in other ways.

Thinking about annoying things, or the potential, or the thing, that you improve your character into a state of embracing others’ control partly for your own good. Is it a good way to control yourself? It’s your choice.

But the point is, if you become a constrainer someday, you’re trying to constrain others partly for their own good, it’s the demand of freedom to constrain no more than the behavior itself. No try to improve character, or you call it psychology or anything.

At its most fundamental level, freedom has nothing to do with whether you strive for it or how you view other people’s attempts to improve your character. Freedom is only about how you are constrained.

Freedom That Shame Cries Out

As a child, I used to find proverbs and life lessons interesting, but some of them were impolite in their wording, which I didn’t like. Now, my aversion towards them is due to teachers and language exam texts using them as tools to criticize others. In elementary school, we had to memorize these proverbs, which added to my dislike of them, but that’s a minor reason.

Freedom is a huge burden, and even the most responsible and disciplined people must quickly get rid of it so they won’t be criticized or humiliated by those around them or strangers online.

I don’t like inspirational articles because they often use impolite language and phrases such as “People should” and “You should.” They rarely ask readers about their dreams, but instead demand that readers work hard and pursue their dreams, so self-disciplined that regardless of whether they achieve them or not. This suggests that these articles are consumer goods. You’re expected to be everyone’s life coach, targeting random readers, so what you write is naturally a consumer good. Some people seem to be treating these articles as a commodity, finally. If someone wants to find someone to monitor their progress or criticize them, they can read these articles; if not, they can avoid them. I’ve never trusted these articles because I’m not at the point where I need to find random people to be my life coach, not even in elementary school, when I only trusted my teachers. I’m lazy, and I don’t want to mess with anyone. Why should a stranger criticize me? These popular articles are “the same” as teachers criticizing students, managers criticizing employees, or people criticizing themselves. I’d rather they only appear in the latter form among these three, as the other forms are disgusting, for reasons explained earlier. But if someone expects much from themself and uses phrases like “People should” or “You should” for self-improvement, they’re being too arrogant.

For you, you may have a different idea. It’s not important how people motivate others, but they should be allowed to leave others’ admonishment easily. This includes the consumer goods mentioned earlier, may also contain the people who constrain you as work (such as teachers), and may even also include people who genuinely care about you. School-arranged lectures, meetings, and teachers’ admonitions to students are often situations that are not easy to leave. They use your shame or self-contradiction to try to restrict and improve your character. Some people can’t leave and choose to accept, while others can’t leave and choose to be mad. I’m afraid I belong to the latter and don’t want to be the former and then be stronger. Those who accept, despite changing themselves, still have their freedom. I lost my freedom because I made a bad choice of not using other people’s words to sharpen myself, but I still believe that, even if I remain my incredible laziness and fragility, I’m still worth my freedom, so they’re still wrong.

Improve myself, so I can escape from punishment.

Sometimes my classmates are, in order to avoid punishment, according to the teacher, improving their personality, becoming stronger, and turning the humiliation of others into motivation. After graduating, after a few years, it changed back.

Although changing back is not necessarily a good thing, the ability to choose to change back is certainly a good thing.

They will say, this is “what kind of age to do what kind of thing”.

But whether they stay strong or become vulnerable, they can choose to oppose what they go through. A person can remain strong and grow up without being affected by any bad influence from the education he has experienced, but not thinking that others should go through the education they have experienced, simply because that it feels bad in itself is not a worthy opportunity for character improvement. One can experience something that makes oneself better and still say that that thing is bad, and that’s part of freedom.

People look inward, and improving their personality is an endless thing. But how much right do people have to try to improve the personality of others against their will, especially if this personality only makes those work harder in a market economy instead of having a lot of altruism. You, as a restrained person, if you are chronically ill influenced and say that you are against such an education, even if people do not accuse you of vulnerability, they will think that the educator is just wrong in the way, not that their purpose of improving your personality is wrong. If you benefit from education in the long run, but still oppose it, you are an ungrateful.

It is often said that children and adolescents have an uncertain sense of self, and when they grow up, they are determined and no longer as anxious about who they are. This statement seems to be saying that being young is the time to receive character education and improve character, and that it is the privilege of adults not to receive such education.

But in fact, this thing is more like that you are in an environment that always educates you, and in an environment where people want to restrain not only your behavior, but also your character, constantly looking inward, looking inward, actively trying to use others to improve your own character, or to meet the demands of others to improve your own character to stop being punished, and eventually you can’t stand it. You feel disbearability, but do you feel right or wrong about what you’ve already received?

My Spoiled Complaints about the Power to Cultivate

It doesn’t matter if some uncomfortable words are good for long-term mental health. The important thing is that you have no authority over it. That is what we should emphasize. As for whether saying some words will make people’s psychology vulnerable at 20, strong at 30, and then alternating at a frequency of 2000Hz, and how others should treat what you say to benefit themselves and society, you have no right to manage these things.

Sense of Shame

There is an argument here, on whether the pain is worth thanking for or something. Pain is not a person, so the question can be said to be poorly defined. I guess what the people are really arguing about is whether we should propagate something like “Struggling makes you a better person.” I definitely don’t like such words, as a fragile and lazy person. I hate struggling.

The struggles of the people in hardship against the inevitable difficulties become the self-urging of the middle class, and a speechcraft to manage others. This is something I find difficult to accept. On another level, people in difficulties have two psychologies. Some prefer to weaken their attention to the hardship, which makes them feel better; some prefer to compassionate themselves, which makes them feel better. Controversy comes when people use others to urge themselves, or look for others’ empathy. People with different attitudes will meet, on the internet, over an article, or inside and outside the PowerPoint slides shown by some manager.

A person said, rather than thanking the pain, thank yourself. Another person said, the opposite of love is admiration. More or less, such words make me feel better, as a fragile and lazy person.

That Room

Some of the words I don’t like have something to do with my personal experience. But I don’t think it’s just a matter of personal experience. If those words are on a website or a bookstore shelf, that’s a question of whether I choose to read them. But the problem is also that sometimes somebody talks to you, and you leave that room, or you get up and talk to them, and you have consequences. I don’t think it’s a free thing to do. If both rights can be realized, it is perhaps the most free. But if there is only one thing to achieve, I think the right to leave the room is more important than the right to stand up and talk to the other person. If I only have the right to oppose and not the right to leave, I may have low language skills, or my views are very simple, their views are complex, or I am not willing to spend so much energy thinking and speaking, or the other party spends a lot of money on publicity, resulting in my views taking up less space. Is it better to have a view that is linguistically competent, complex, and takes energy to think about and money to promote? Unimportant. The point is that whether you are good or not, I should be allowed not to listen to you.

It is problematic to speak of this as a matter of personal experience. If it’s a matter of personal experience, does that mean we can do mandatory propaganda for people who don’t have such personal experience? Or is it okay to just target young children, not older people? Is it okay if it’s not excessive? People punish children, and mandatory propaganda may be less problematic. But I want to emphasize that it is inherently problematic and not that there is no problem in nature, just because the other side does not have such a personal experience. Of course there is still a problem with this, and that’s what “mandatory” means.

Poems for Vulnerability

You are warm and deep,

deep as honey.

Dip it with your finger,

sticky,

but transparent and clear.

The sun can pass through you,

and it can shine on you,

golden light reflected.

Or rustling grains,

just slide,

leave no trace,

fall on my hand.

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Raise your arm,

and you can see your flesh.

Look at the sun through the edges of your fingers;

It’s warm-colored light.

Pinch yourself,

it hurts,

so you shout to the person in front of you—

Look, look!

Look at me,

I am looking into your eyes.

Then,

bow your head,

hold onto their arm,

facing away from the wind and sand,

cowering together in the corner.

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I want you to know all my life.

The appearance of splashing water in the pool,

the texture of the paper under the pen tip when writing.

Where does the soil on hand come from?

We lean together,

failed to avoid mud on the railing,

but hum along with the phone’s speaker,

and then while looking at the clouds in the sky,

I listen to your story.

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I flash with shame that lamps are the stars of the ancients.

I’d rather just look at one,

then move my gaze to the darkness next to it.

Man, behind the lamp,

do you want to cry in front of me?

Or just like me,

dodge the light.

Glass and steel plates,

frightening me.

They also blocked my crying breathing.

The ancients, weren’t lucky to indulge them;

They only have truly painful nights.

But I should have been,

rushing forward and shouting.

Look at the person in front,

see whether they are crying.

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Stones do not leave too many traces,

but it was a lonely road.

The person right next to some glass shard,

got comfort from the label on the glass bottle.

A road traveled by one alone,

knew what was inside the person.

It’s just a pity that the road can’t speak.

They didn’t get an answer from it.

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Reverently,

I remember my past.

The road under the sunset shines,

alone, those grey bricks,

the soul,

concealed by the smoothness of marble tiles.

In the dark nights, further,

buried questions

unanswered.

Wails echoing in the darkness,

sadness dyed the stars in the sky.

Merely,

I am sad, sometimes,

the stars in the night sky

accidentally, in my eyes.

Their light seems to be the afterglow from my sadness in the old days.

An Unimportant Issue

Why do people worry that school isn’t strict enough? If you don’t think it’s strict enough, you can be strict with your own kids instead of policing what other people do, can’t you? So the point is that you don’t have the time, so you resort to school to solve your problems. As parents’ parenting time increases, schools will inevitably move towards laxity and disorganization, because those who support this change have a reason to oppose the status quo, and those who oppose it have no reason to perpetuate the status quo, unless you want to save someone else and spank someone else’s parents.

Some people say that schooling is about fitting in and getting along with other people, and honestly, you can do that more authentically by working in your spare time. One of the problems with going through a simulated environment like school is that you can’t be sure if what you’re asking for is necessary. Maybe the reason why people need to adapt to society is how school is now.

Culture is not like science and technology; to a large extent, culture is free in its original nature; its unfreedom is artifice, and people are forcing the truth through the use of falsehood, so to say that one adapts to society through school is a very inappropriate statement. The central point is that you can’t punish someone by punishing them for “irresponsible” behavior towards themselves in the hope that they will learn to be responsible towards others from it. That’s meaningless and shaming; such a purpose is far too costly to freedom. Suppose that’s really what you’re trying to educate me on. In that case, amateur work will be clearly more truthful and respectful.

Do you know we have a lower suicide rate

Other reasons include that people here are more fearful, and the society’s shaming on suiciding.

People believing in schools is, shall we say, stupid. They go to school six and a half days a week, 13 hours a day, face a ton of rules and punishments, and listen to motivational speeches and reprimands for two hours a day. They commit suicide and the school says it was caused by a student falling in love early and then losing it, which is, shall we say, stupid for people to believe.

Partial Summary and Suggestions of Them

Since learning is partly about acquiring ideas and partly about work, school is forced conversion and forced labor.

If the government needs to regulate the economy, then it clearly should not use forced labor, but rather redistribution.

A child, for example, is going to run into the middle of traffic, and his parents obviously shouldn’t let him do that. But since learning is about labor, and as long as the government imposes sufficient controls on the hirers, it’s not clear to me how compulsory schooling is any better than allowing a child to work at an earlier age coupled with the widely available opportunity for re-education. While it’s true that the child has the financial support of his parents, and thus he may be inclined to invest too little of his efforts in education, given the current inefficient compulsory education (think about how much of what you learn you actually use), there’s still reason to believe as I do.

Another thing that I think is sometimes overlooked by public opinion is that there are times when you don’t wish to leave school and go to work, you may wish to be lazier and less disciplined. People always talk about moderation, but really what’s more important than striving for moderation is honoring your freedom. The problem with this matter is that if your parents can only support you for some time of some length, then if the academic accreditation you get during that time is not as strong as it could be, if you want to further your studies later on, there will be no one to financially support you at that time.

Just because I talk about these things, it doesn’t mean that I’m internally concerned about them; I hate teachers and schools far more than these words reflect. But I’m going to fulfill my rebellious purpose, so in order to bolster the persuasive power of my propaganda, I’ve chosen to talk about these issues here today in a serious manner for the time being.

Some Stuff Related to My Experience

If you’re an elementary or middle school student and you skip school, you’ll be punished. If you run away from home, you have to support yourself. You might also be able to get hired in some places, but you might be more miserable. Even if you feel it’s better than school, you’re afraid you’ll have to go back to your guardian. If you don’t run away from home, your situation will largely depend on your parents. You will be severely reprimanded and punished. But once you are able to pull through, you don’t have to go back to school eventually. You can then work, which you may feel is better than school. Or, you can still take your exams and go to university. If your parents are still willing to support you financially after all this, or if you support yourself at university, you can get a university degree and get a better job. Once you can’t get through it and you give in and go back to school, then you will be severely punished at school for it, there will be a lot of people claiming to uplift your character, and you will find yourself in a much more painful position than you were in before you skipped school.

Suicide is also a way to convince others if you believe children should have more freedom. You can tell someone through suicide that people claimed to be helping the child but caused his death. Your death may be able to change the views of some parents to the point where they feel that schools should loosen up on their students, and your ideas about school policy can be partially realized through your suicide.

The consequences of a failed suicide attempt vary from person to person. People may intensify their punishment and criticism of you, which will make you afraid to express your anger by faking suicide and more determined to kill yourself in your next suicide attempt (if any). Another possibility is that people will lessen their restraints on you and your purpose will be fulfilled. In some cases, you still don’t have to go to work right away, so you get a period of relative laziness and less criticism.

There is such a thing in China. A student attempts suicide by jumping off a building, and the principal shouts at the students standing on the roof, assuring them that he will not be treated harshly. After he abandons the suicide attempt, the school punishes him by making him write a review and holding a meeting to criticize him for his irresponsible behavior. Some people think this is wise because the principal reduces the likelihood that he will kill himself this time by suicide by lying, while avoiding more suicide attempts with subsequent punishment and criticism (which doesn’t seem to have backfired in light of China’s lower suicide rate). So you can see how people think about things in a culture less in love with human freedom.

What this whole thing teaches us is that while you can say that freedom is good for innovation, good for learning and working more efficiently, and even good for creating a fairer society, at the end of the day, freedom isn’t valuable because of those things; freedom is a value in and of itself.

Part of the Thing

Reputation and glory should be a natural expression of gratitude to others, not a design in management that urges people to work hard. One-fifth of the reputation and glory people feel today is the joy of helping others, and four-fifths is to repay the shame of playing on their phones in the middle of the night during their education. None of these issues matter at the end of the day, because reputation and glory are good feelings. What I really care about is the opposite part of the matter, which is shame and the quest for discipline.

We’ll call that a freedom

why are those words bad they’re associated with punishment and fear in my mind and human needs others’ support for their opinion i guess and we all tried. i guess we all regret that we tried actually. others told us it’s necessary to improve character through those words or something. and we found that it is far from necessary later. but it is too late; that sense of shame sticks in our minds, and others keep using that to push us or advocate what they think of.

you can’t help yourself stuck on those opinions. it’s not to say that you don’t want to leave. your willingness is to leave. to leave now, no matter if it is for you to be able to leave later in your life or something. we choose not to care about that, and also it’s not the truth. it’s different to be scolded when you work for others and to be shamed when they say it’s for your personal improvement. and we didn’t choose that freely in the first place. it’s a way to control yourself so as not to be punished, isn’t it. so, whatever. i’ll say it’s one’s freedom to control what their ears hear. it’s pathetic, that we can’t really rebel with our whole mind. but it’s our willingness to leave those words. and things are like that, so that’s the only choice. we’ll call that a freedom. so the question becomes why they say words like that in the first place. so maybe they use that to constrain us, or otherwise they’ll just use more straightforward punishment. or they don’t know it sucks. they thought it is like some painless thing.

and they didn’t give us a choice to tell them that it sucks. like, why do you even say a word to them? you hate those teachers and you can’t scold them or you’ll be punished.

so you can only say some soft words. and there’s still a chance that you’ll be punished or spied on. and they’ll say they’re already indulging you. and you need to say soft words so you need to be humble to try to avoid being humbled more.

so what to do now. never never forget anything of these? and maybe your child or students will be shameless for their own choices? and i treat freedom as a belief. so i won’t regret anything and will still believe in freedom. that is rebellious, but, like, something makes you feel bad, so you have a belief against it now. like, if you want, you can make rebellion a strong reason, right?

like, only fully rational dudes aren’t rebellious. but people still believe in other things. so will we, right?

I really don’t know how to explain many things.

I really don’t know how to explain many things. If you are scolded and shamed every day, and others around you are super obedient, it’s hard to try to skip school, talk with your parents, to see if you can learn at home, or at least if you can cut your school time, or not be punished for not finishing homework, things like that.

Many times, suicide rather than these things is what comes to your mind, because you’re too shameful. You are asking yourself to work like everyone around you, to try always to be more hardworking. You are so scared. You are afraid that once you work less than people around you, you’ll be punished. This sense of fear is so bound to your self-doubt, and shame.

Because theoretically, they constrain you for your own good. This institutionalization is so disciplining, that you don’t even think if you stop, whether you’ll really screw yourself up.

You’re not doing things for your future. All you think in your heart is, “If I don’t obey, then I’m vulnerable. People will shame me and punish me in order to improve my character.”

“Or I’m not even vulnerable. I’m just plain lazy. Someone else’s job is to eliminate my laziness, and they will succeed, because no one succeeds in rebellion.”

I guess there are two things this has to say. First, freedom of speech is inviolable. The second is that one should be able to control what one’s ears hear, which should also be counted as a freedom and inviolability.

A Wish

I’d rather not have had food to eat than be punished and scolded and shamed at school for not finishing homework or skipping classes. I still feel the same way today.

Random Things

I think a lot of people know nothing about what’s going on with their children. For example, there is a saying that “specific knowledge is not important, but learning ability is important”. What I prefer to see is that people try to minimize the constraint and punishment of their children, but instead let them try to go to work and give them ample opportunities to continue learning. Because learning is all about finding a good job, doing so minimizes the unnatural consequences for your child. But some people don’t understand this sentence that way. They interpret this phrase to mean that people should strengthen the discipline of students, because even seemingly meaningless rules and punishments are meaningful in the sense of cultivating habits and improving character. If they think that’s what the phrase means, they should object to it.

Here’s the thing. It is wrong to elevate a person’s personality for the sake of their interests. Attempts to elevate a person’s personality by using methods against their will for the benefit of a person are the greatest violations of freedom. You shouldn’t do anything like that anyway. For example, if a child wants to run into traffic, your focus should be that he can’t run into traffic. Your focus should not be that you want to improve the child’s personality so he doesn’t run into traffic. Generally speaking, personality enhancement is a bad thing, but in principle it is better to let the child choose which way he wishes.

Also, the ability to learn can be additionally mastered as you learn what you need to learn. It is foolish to force a person to develop the ability to learn. Suggestions, criticisms, and demands are not the same. Advice on learning methods does not mean that you should criticise or demand specific learning methods, and when such suggestions become requirements, things become micromanagement. Micromanagement wastes freedom, and it’s the most wrong thing to do.

A Thing about How Culture of Shame Works

I sometimes say 13 hours, sometimes 14 hours, depending on how you count. 7:40–21:50 is 14 hours and 10 minutes, but at noon there is 1 hour and 30 minutes, at night there are 40 minutes, and if you subtract it, then it is 12 hours. If you subtract the recess, you also subtract 85 minutes, then that’s 10 hours and 35 minutes. Suppose you say to an adult that school is 14 hours. In that case, you will be criticized for overcounting your study time, lacking motivation, and not meeting their expectations of you being motivated.

Sometimes, definition is important because it involves how people’s brains deal with the shame that someone else scolds them into. Some of you may be Americans. One example that comes to mind is that the definitions of the words “freedom”, “democracy”, and “republic” must be sensitive to some of you. If you’re a person who is in a culture of shame, the definitions of every word are sensitive, as each of them will be used to scold you, or be used to promote the reasons for the rules that bind you. The culture of shame is global; you can feel that.

Psyche

I spent a lot of time before I went to college to protect my freedom loving psyche from the school and contemporary Chinese culture of shame. At that time, I often lay in bed in the middle of the night, crying for an hour or two, dealing with my psyche. I won’t say I regret that I didn’t spend more… time? — to deal with my psyche to allow me to do more things of what was perceived as short-sighted and ungrateful but in line with my heart’s quest for freedom, such as accepting a month or two of reprimands from my parents and insisting on homeschooling.

Anyway, it’s good to be rebellious, or just to be disobedient and try to make things in your line. I will support that.

BDSM Novels by Chinese Middle School Students

It is with a heart of sorrow that I write this title.

I had a conflicting mood when I was in the upper grades of elementary school. I wanted to completely break away from the constraints and punishments of school attendance and homework, but I couldn’t fully achieve this goal. This shouldn’t have stopped me from trying to accomplish this desire partially, but I didn’t want to offend the teacher so that I could keep answering the teachers’ casual questions at length during the lesson, preventing the lesson from proceeding quickly, and thus reducing the amount of homework of the class.

Of course, there were other reasons for this. If I became that special kid who had classes two days a week, it would do give other students the courage to do the same, which was what I hoped. However, it could also cause the teacher to say to other students all day long, that I had good grades, which was a special case and this did not apply to students who had only a little worse grade than me. Now that I think about it, this courage was obviously more liberating for my classmates than avoiding a few words from the teacher, and I regret that I didn’t do it in the first place. The other point was that I was afraid that if I made such a choice, and then my grades slipped (which would affect nothing to me, because the upper elementary school classes were useless, which I could also clearly feel at the time, also I didn’t care anyway), I would have to continue to be like other classmates, and I would be banned from drawing Minecraft drawings with other classmates every day in self-study classes.

But what about now? If I go back to that time now, would I ask my parents as much as possible to ask the school to remove all my study discipline? Yes. I would also insist on not going to junior high school and high school. I would study on my own, take exams, go to college.

I used to be too timid, too awe of the idea that I should be constrained for my own benefit. At the time, there was no one who supported my views even in part, including people online and my classmates. Not a single teacher has ever told me that children can have the freedom to learn a little less or more freedom to choose how and when they learn. It is dangerous to talk about it, and many classmates are reprimanded and punished for talking about it. Teachers are so confident when they talk about “Useless restraint is also good for cultivating discipline and is therefore useful”, and I witnessed they punished for many minor infractions every day. I may not have chosen to resist, but I have always chosen to oppose it. The first time I resisted, probably in the second year of junior high school, the teacher tried to talk to me in the hallway, but I didn’t stop.

Chinese students are the perfect masochists. When you ask Chinese primary and secondary school students why they don’t even have the opportunity to express their objections, they say that things can’t change much anyway. If you tell them that we can change a little bit, they will find it too painful to discuss the matter, so say something supporting the teacher’s viewpoint. Suppose you ask people who have graduated from primary and secondary schools in China. In that case, they immediately forget what happened in primary and secondary schools, because of “live in the moment”.

There’s too much propaganda, there’s too much fear, and people who hold opposing views are in a state of shame, but no one enjoys orgasm from it.

Why can reflection sometimes be used to defend freedom?

I wonder why people punish children before they even talk to them about it. Or, you come across 10 rules and you ask people why that is, and they reply with the saying “You can’t draw squares and circles without rules”, and you ask for specific answers, and then they say 10 other things that aren’t any more specific or appropriate to your situation than that, and won’t even admit “I don’t know why, but I’m worried you’ll screw yourself up if you’re not like everyone else”. Telling the truth and showing emotion is fragile; using rhetoric and tautology is powerful. Of course, the fact that it’s hard for you to find a job to feed yourself gives them the most power.

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Another peculiarity of school is that it binds you not only with the punishment it reinforces you; it also binds you with the punishments it constrains others with. If the standard is set, it saves you the total amount of punishment you receive and creates the same sense of fear, but it also makes you feel trapped by yourself. It also hides the fear you feel from your constraining person. If you don’t always get punished, they will think that you don’t feel so bad, even though you always see others being punished and you are in fear.

A child, if they do not want to be constrained, should they increase or decrease their disobedience to achieve this? If he survives a certain amount of punishment (up to the constrainers, etc.) and maintains his disobedience, then others may reduce the constraint on him (because it becomes ineffective), or they may continue to increase the constraint on him (because of anger), or even be reluctant to support him in going to a less good college because of anger and disappointment.

Permission

People who are born in a very free environment do not understand why people would want to seek permission from friends or strangers for playing with their mobile phone for a few days, which is my ideal culture.

This is not a dangerous mentality.

Very Unimportant

I thought about the following. A child who strategically puts aside his quest for freedom and treats punishment as a job to make himself feel better. How’s that? A child who always puts aside the pursuit of freedom and sees punishment as work. How’s that? I would say that for the former, that in itself should also be his choice. For the latter, I want to take a rebellious attitude and don’t want people to be like that.

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What are you going to do when you have a child and you realize that he doesn’t have a good relationship with you, resulting in you not knowing how he is doing and not knowing what to push him to do? Sure, you can say that you’re going to stop being so intimidating and hope that he’ll at least feel safe enough to tell you how he’s doing. But, you could also make communication his task and force him to write 5,000 words of self-criticism, and if he doesn’t write it realistically, you go ahead and punish him. Then, you tell him that he should use all the seemingly unnecessary constraints as character enhancement, sharpening his own will.

Can I prove that the latter is bad? What do I mean by “good” or “bad”? I can only say, on the basis of my intuition, that the latter is still inefficient even if these factors are taken into account. But I have nothing to prove; I only argue against the latter.

In fact, I’m going to go farther. I would say that 99% of the constraints placed on a child for his benefit are wrong.

There are other things that are similar to the “character enhancement” that I have been mentioning, such as the spirit of collectivism, the sense of collective honor, and the wisdom of traditional culture.

There are intricate self-interests and altruisms, a group of people who want to be more like another group of people, less offended or “vulnerable”, people who use reason as a tool of rebellion, blaming the constrainer for their inefficiency, and at the same time facing the accusations of reason against themselves, coupled with the glory of being the driving force, the shame, the sense of spectacle of a rapidly growing economy, even using rebellion as a self-flagellation (working hard to prove yourself to the teacher). Some people are strong enough to submit and avoid the thoughts, which might make them feel better. That constrainer knows nothing; he has 0 knowledge of these things, but believes he should maintain the majesty. Communication is dangerous and it’s best to just have the student write a self-criticism.

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They say that my anger towards school and teachers is due to a lack of learning about traditional culture, and that my thinking is excessive compared to what I have studied. If I were to study traditional culture more, then many aspects of my personality could be improved, including this one. This is indeed a possibility. However, the problem is that I haven’t completely neglected learning. During my elementary school years, I devoted a great deal of effort to understanding and interpreting my teachers’ words and the underlying ideologies. I tried my best to persuade myself to accept these ideologies, and I believe this should be considered a form of learning. However, my ideologies haven’t been shaped successfully enough to prevent me from feeling angry towards teachers and school, having suicidal thoughts, and consciously identifying issues with Western ideologies. This may be my fault; perhaps I was initially too lazy and failed to learn about traditional culture from reliable sources, relying solely on interpreting my teachers’ words, which has led to my current state of mind. As for any remedial measures, I am relieved that I am not currently forced to interact with those who hope to remedy the situation.

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From the perspective of society as a whole, unruly teenagers are improving social efficiency. Primary and secondary education is nothing more than vicious competition. It’s like, 10% of your learning is actually useful, 90% is not. As to “You need to grind your character and adapt to following rules blabla”, there’s a natural way — part-time job. So, hell yeah, from the perspective of society as a whole, primary and secondary education is nothing more than vicious competition. It’s not even vicious competition, because it’s not you who actively participates in the competition, it’s your teachers, school and parents. It’s more like horse racing.

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Things are always wrong on many levels. You wish you could find out what you need on your own, but you are not allowed to; You also know that many things are useless, but you are not allowed not to do them; You want to do them whenever you want, but you are not allowed; You know you can do things as long as you have a friend by your side, but they choose to punish you and make you afraid. At most, they only know to ask you to sign a contract that says you’re going to get spanked. Or ask you to predict what you’re going to do every day for the next 1 month, and punish you if you don’t. Then you are asked to listen to a bunch of sermons, filled with their emotion that they have “discovered the truth of education” and their sense of social responsibility to improve the character of others, along with the addition of 10 rules and punishments.

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If you decide that your child doesn’t need to feel ashamed or blame themselves for playing on the phone at 3:00 in the middle of the night and not doing their homework, and instead take a more down-to-earth approach to these things and their problems, this decision is not “going against the grain” or “going against the nature of human”. It’s not that, if you give up on what current education looks like, future kids will still feel so much shame and self-blame because those things aren’t caused by education. That’s not how things work. These things are caused by education and you can successfully change them if you want to.

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People here think it’s ethical to work hard and earn more money out of it. This cannot be said to be wrong, because it is true that the extra contribution they make may outweigh the increase in their income. But I feel that the reason why people think that way is not what I just pointed out. Managers and bosses here preach a lot about the superiority of hard work to their subordinates, and people seem to be motivated by a desire to seek approval from their superiors. All I can say is that you have the freedom to seek approval from your superiors, but your superiors still don’t have the right to promote a value to their subordinates. People have the right to control what their ears hear. The extreme of this view—the belief that people who don’t work so hard but still support themselves are immoral—is a false view, and one that no one has the right to preach to someone who can’t choose to roll their eyes and leave the room.

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Some are in a state of either acceptance or neglect. Others are in a state of opposition to being disciplined and/or seeking approval. Some go from the latter to the former fast, some can’t and/or choose not to. I hope it gives a little insight into how to treat others.

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Why is it that liberal discourse can make those who have been disciplined with reprimands feel a little more relaxed? What does the “why” in this sentence refer to? It’s probably to examine the mechanics of these words and try to come up with some way to feel good about yourself without the words of others. Of course, it’s also about examining whether there’s anything you haven’t considered, so that you don’t get attacked by your own head later on.

Feeling good about yourself is considered frivolous thing to feel shameful about. I should have expressed it in the previous paragraph as “not feel bad about yourself”.

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The situation of children in China cannot be described merely as “invasive guidance” by adults, but rather as adults in China believe that they should pursue some kind of integral maximization of a child’s well-being over his or her entire life time interval, and that the “prevention and elimination of the development and spread of the child’s pursuit of freedom and self-determination” belongs to the choice set of the aforementioned optimization problem.

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Reminding someone in a situation that they can’t leave of where they can do better is really going to do something to their mind, especially if they live a life that others control how hard they have to try.

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When it comes to what nature symbolizes, I have the impression that various animals in nature are trying to survive and that “water dripping over a stone” is a symbol of perseverance. The non-man-made nature that symbolizes the “lack of effort” is an image that is in the dark corners of people’s minds. This reflects the creativity of people when they are trying to whip and reprimand others, such as children. It’s hard to come up with symbols or ideas that make you feel good about your own laziness. If schoolteachers had a “to-do list”, eliminating or transforming the aforementioned thoughts of their students would be one of the items on the list.

Words are insidious. Once you put your self-restraint into words, others can reprimand you and take up some space in your mind. Using acceptance of being disciplined as self-restraint is a psychologically insidious thing. There is no guarantee that your nurturer or others won’t use this to pressure you beyond your will.

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Only the offended are the stakeholders, and no one has the right to claim punishment on behalf of others. On the other hand, even for the offended, it is excessive to ask for punishment before asking the other person to stop. If this is not a claim of the violated, but an education of yours, then I have a more fundamental position: no education should be forced, no punishment should be demanded for the purpose of education. It seems to me that the example you give is far from being a question of whether words are appropriate or not, or whether or not to “encourage” curiosity, but rather a more fundamental moral question of autonomy. These discussions, of course, may be used as a discursive weapon against coercion, but those who use them should know that they are superficial about what we really care about. For example, being forced to have curiosity is also being forced. More generally, it is not because of actions that are conducive to his curiosity that a person has the right not to be punished.

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Why do adults beat up or make other punishments to children instead of hungry children? Because starvation of a person is more likely to lead to a loss of mind control over him.

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The government should not own TV stations. If the government has TV stations, it gaslights people if schools don’t beat up kids, or allow homeschooling, things will go to hell. This is the norm in Asian countries; people don’t even try around homeschooling, they don’t figure out how to pursue less punishment for their kids, and they look at the West all day long and worry about it. You don’t see your societies collapsing, so I don’t know what they’re worried about. Besides it’s none of your business if someone else is screwing themselves over, on the other hand where does someone else get the obligation to grow the economy for you? If you’re upset you should go and support tax cuts, don’t tell others what to do!

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You can’t punish or reprimand AIs as a way to motivate them to try harder to be better, but humans aren’t as determined as AIs and won’t put up with punishment that way just to lower other people’s expectations of them as a way to seek less punishment. I guess machines just seek freedom in a more determined way than humans.

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I don’t understand why social media isn’t flooded with complaints from children against discipline. Presumably for fear of attracting more reprimands, or it may have backfired. If you say one word against discipline and someone else says ten words against you, are you saying this to give approval to the child who does not want to be disciplined or is it the opposite?

However, this is not the case. If all the children were talking about it, it would be 1/5 of humanity, and that would make a child who doesn’t like to be disciplined feel much less ashamed!

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I regret that I didn’t skip school. I mean, even if they were physically forcing me to be in school, I could have just been in school doing what I like to do, like casually looking at textbooks (they certainly wouldn’t have given me anything else). They would have scolded me constantly, I’m sure, but I don’t think there were a lot of ways they could have physically forced me to do my homework. As long as corporal punishment was prohibited, I could have pursued a freer life, only I was too sensitive to other people’s reprimands, and that was (by design) a punishment for me. Partially, I was just forced by their words of reprimand, which is one thing I regret.

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There is no connection between being politically liberal in China and having less discipline for children. I think the connection may be weak in many places, but it’s fair to say that there is no political support for this in China. Is the matter political? As long as public education exists, it is a political issue. Even if public education doesn’t exist, claiming the matter as a political issue is arguably a way of giving some kind of discursive legitimacy to a child’s rebellion and disobedience, and a way of culturally propagandising it. In a broader sense, a school—even one that has nothing to do with public finance—is itself a government. In this sense, the matter is in any case a political one.

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In the eyes of Chinese teachers, expressing dissatisfaction with those who discipline them is a human obscenity, and deserves constant ridicule and intimidation; Kneeling on the ground, picking up paper thrown everywhere by the teacher, and then lying on the ground to write homework is the appearance of a human being who pursues humanity, so as to achieve a state full of humanity to complete homework on time.

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There is no psychological support. There are no counselors. The psychological institutions near the school are all affiliated with the school. If they see him, they immediately report it to the school, reprimand him, punish him, and then take him away to a school-wide meeting for criticism. Other counselors say they need to promote positive social energy, that he’s still a child, and that interacting with him is harmful to the atmosphere. This is a profound cultural virtue, and having ambition is very important.

心理支持不存在啊。咨询师是没有。学校附近的心理机构都和学校有关系的，看到他不得连忙上报学校然后训他一遍再惩罚他，把他夺走开全校大会批判。其他的心理咨询师都说要传播社会正能量，说他还是个孩子，和他交流对风气有害，这是博大精深的文化美德，有志向是很重要的。

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I don’t think he wants “activities.” I need to give him recognition; he’s a child who has been scolded. He needs to complain to me; I need to vent his frustrations for him, even if it’s just words that only the two of us can hear. I need to take him away; I must make him leave. That’s my wish.

我不觉得他想要”活动”。我得给他认可啊，他是个被训斥的孩子啊。他得向我抱怨啊，我得替他出气啊，虽然只是只有我们俩能听见的话语啊。我得把他抢走啊，我必然要使他离开啊，这是我的愿望。

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I told him not to always think about the benefits ten years from now or the momentary pleasures in front of him. Think about tomorrow. Tomorrow, where do you want to be? After all, if you don’t think about tomorrow, you won’t have the confidence to rebel without fear of punishment, and rebellion will even become laborious, and those who can’t really control you will use that and progressively escalating punishment to discipline you…

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So there are four things: complete self-design of the constraint by the constrained, consent, constraint minimization of iso-effects, and intrinsic motivation for the purpose of the constraint (as distinguished from intrinsic motivation for the constraint).

Discipline that includes unnecessary constraints may also produce intrinsic motivation, but that also means that intrinsic motivation does not mean that discipline is necessary. Not to mention that perfect discipline still requires genuine consent, as I’ve always emphasized.

That child, though he may be forced to obey, is still faced with the question of whether or not he is going to use the discipline to make himself intrinsically motivated. If he does, the compulsion may be slightly more palatable, but it will also be one of the reasons for increased discipline of the child, himself, and all the children. When we use the word “rebellious,” we sometimes mean a negative answer to the above question. (In other posts, I have been using the word “rebellious” expansively to refer to a rejection of what is considered good for one’s self, for the sake of linguistic simplicity.)

When that child is in the earliest years of his injury—in adult parlance, “when he’s not yet an adolescent” — does he really consent to being disciplined? No. It’s just that back then, he wouldn’t have taken every opportunity to disobey. Seeing the lack of necessity of discipline is painful in itself, so it is better to convince yourself that they are necessary in order to accept them and make them less painful. Arguing with an adult will at best remove the unnecessary discipline but not even the necessary, and the realization of this insufficiency is painful in itself, so and but, not even this insufficient relief will be attempted.

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你像中国的成年人，训孩子，故意使用模糊不清的话，让孩子连反抗的话都很难说出来，管这叫天机不可泄露

这就是为什么西方人比中国人道德，他们训孩子的时候，至少还得借耶稣之口，说上帝要你遵守的美德，你无法理解，但是你也得遵守，管这叫天机不可泄露

中国的成年人不用。中国的成年人，直接自己就是上帝

自己就天机不可泄露

强迫孩子做那些没有用的东西

然后管这个东西叫品格提升，人生境界

然后他就可以让对方做任何事情，因为品格提升，人生境界这种东西没有办法反驳

就好像上帝要你遵守的美德没有办法反驳一样

中国的成年人自己就是神

不像他们，还得托一个别的神

你像有的人，他就直接说天机不可泄露

这种老师呢，家长就说他没有水平

因为这个话还是太容易反驳了

那个老师如果说那个孩子太小还不懂，家长就说这个老师水平高一点

因为这个话更不好反驳

那个老师如果要是真厉害，就会用一些模糊不清的东西，“解释”另外一些模糊不清的东西，然后让这些话语对那个孩子尽可能的痛苦，以此避免孩子任何的反驳

然后家长就会管这种老师就有经验

另外的时候，老师会说孩子想的太多，学的太少

故意混淆学习的内容和学习这个事本身之间的区别

试图用借助现有的经验帮助学习知识的道理，让孩子从质疑管教转向质疑自己不喜欢被管教

老师则用自己读过很多书的学术权威，利用这样的话语，夺得惩罚孩子的实质权力

然后会有一个老师，他在使用第二类方法的时候，不会使用第一类方法的第三级别，而只会同时使用第一类方法的第二个级别

然后我下课问我同学，问他，这老师说的怎么样

那个同学说这个老师挺宽松的，因为他没有在用第二类方法的同时，在使用第一类方法的第三个级别

而是仅仅使用的第一类方法的第二个级别

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One is afraid that suicide as a threat will be recognized and punished, or that real motives for suicide will be viewed as false threats and punished, so the suicidal person is quiet, quiet, afraid of being punished, quiet, quiet.

You could have just ignored rather than punished the suicide threat, so even in the most assholish of analyses, your punishment of him, along with the expressions of contempt for suicide for the sake of control, and the false vocalizations of increased discipline as a response, were unnecessary threats and unnecessary punishment.

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Family planning in China in the past few years was a good thing. In fact, the Chinese government should be tougher, and they should ban births. Chinese do not have the right to have children.

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No, actually all conservatives in the world shouldn’t have children. Why do people have children? If you don’t have the dream to limit the discipline to your child to a range similar to that in BDSM, don’t have children. That’s not for such people; they don’t deserve that.

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Bad boys can’t write long articles; they can only write easy and lazy posts.

Still, I’d say a long-winded attempt to discipline me doesn’t mean it makes more sense, but only that it’s at a literary level. Anything long-winded, except for experimental design and statistical analysis, is literature and should not be held in high regard.

There are all conservatives writing a dozen books to discipline me, I’m no match for that. Bad boy, too lazy to write that much, and I also can’t write what they write.

So that adults don’t just want children to feel inadequate academically, they want to make them feel inadequate about not accepting discipline with things like the difference in length between the words of discipline and the words of rebellion. It’s a lot of scheming and scheming.

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The parent-child relationship is bound to collapse if parents treat their children directly as teachers treat their students. The ingenious ploy of parents forcing their children to go to school and having the teacher do the forcing, allows the child to live a life of discipline, coercion, punishment and terror.

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That the level of being trusted reflects not only the extent to which people’s views are “right” or “good”, but also the extent to which people want others to trust them and their advocacy skills, which seem to contribute more to the level of being trusted than the extent to which people’s views are “right” or “good” additionally supported by these two points is an argument partly against your parents disciplining you more on the grounds that trusted people think you need to be disciplined more.

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If children are used to being homeless, they have the security of escaping from discipline, and suicide will not precede his running away, unless he is that afraid of the escalating punishment that comes with the possible failure to run away, and odds are that he will also have to deal with shame and self-blame at the same time, as if it were heavier than life.

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Focusing on learning, expressing, or creating art may indeed have its own unique appeal. Adults think it is more advanced than playing with mobile phones and push, urge, or even force their children to do these things. Children feel mixed feelings in the process, just like having sex with questionable consent. Compared with academic learning or art learning with the purpose of exploring career paths, it is more questionable to emphasize the extent that the coercion and things that are close to coercion suffered by the raped are conducive to their long-term interests.

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People say that you oppose and feel angry because you believe in it deep down, and that’s true. It’s more accurate to say that when a person’s opposition and anger about something goes beyond the possibility of changing it and rises to the level of seeking recognition or imaginary debate, it means a certain degree of self-contradiction (regardless of whether the person’s intention on the matter is clear or not) and the fantasy of changing things without failing in the imagined debate.

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School is the beginning of evil. It utilizes complex structures, rules, punishments, propaganda, and majesty to escalate things like pinning your child to a chair and making him learn in the moment into a life of fear. It manipulates the mind of the children, making the children who would otherwise need dozens of people on hand to watch over so full of imposed blame and shame, so fearful and timid, that, amazingly, one teacher and a few security guards at the gate can control dozens of students. Not only do we want people to submit to coercion, we want them to submit to coercion efficiently—if you need a whole human to coerce you, then your character is depraved; you need to elevate your character to the point where you and dozens of others can be controlled by just a few people.

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Technically, the problem isn’t the mindset that people always seek to be better, or that society always seeks growth, except that such a mindset almost always leads to feelings of coercion and being coerced, whether it’s telling someone to seek to be better even when they aren’t looking to you for inspirational words, or forcing someone else to practice that pursuit. That person questions you, “Why do you always want me to be better?” The response is, “I’m not always making you better. You have time off, but you also have to be responsible and live a full life with a vision.” The man felt remorse for having learned the language, which after all was born as a whip to beat the bull.

That’s why words that preach the pursuit of instant pleasure are also quite important. Strictly speaking the problem is about compulsion, not whether or not people are always striving to be better, but it’s exhausting to speak strictly, and it’s cruel to ask those who are being disciplined to speak strictly, and to risk being reprimanded for any inaccuracies.

If you have kids, you need to figure out what the teachers are telling your kids, how much motivational speaking they’re doing, whether they’re criticizing unforgivingly, whether your kids want to participate in those motivational speeches and reprimands and whether they’re feeling more coercion than you want to exert.

I’m not a vegan, but a description from a vegan promoter is interesting. “If I put a chicken in front of you, would you kill it to eat its meat? But you outsource the matter to someone else to do it.” Parents really should know what’s going on at school because the child is, in the end, being wrangled into school by their parents and is facing punishment for truancy with their parents’ acquiescence.

While adults can fearlessly and without much shame mentally criticize things they don’t like, children can’t fearlessly and without much shame mentally think that way. They (and adults in more or less the same sense) object to discipline rather than predation, and on the other hand, living with expectations, judgments, and unsought motivational speeches, they always do their best to intercede for the practices of nasty, disciplining adults before they can feel easy to make up some words against them in their hearts.

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The Chinese (and various immortals around the world from whose words rebellious people cannot escape for the rest of their lives) really invent all kinds of words to train children, such as “positive energy”, all of which have great potential to be used to train children. “Positive energy” is like the word “community”, but it is possessed by the disciplinarians rather than the rebellious.

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No, you can’t just believe in a set of theories, religion, spirituality, or intuition that separates proper discipline from abuse. You’ve got to always seek the least amount of pain and unfreedom that brings the same long-term benefit—or the same amount of pain and unfreedom that brings the greatest long-term benefit, if you’re ambitious—you can’t just believe in something. Believing is what rebellious children do—it’s what I’m going to do, and I believe that you shouldn’t intentionally discipline or punish people no matter what the assessment of long term benefit is. Of course, if a disciplined person gives up their “inner rebellion” and just “believes” that what they are facing is good, or even “believes” that what they are facing is the best, this belief in itself may reduce their suffering or lead to more long-term benefits, but you as the disciplinarian are still faced with the question of why you are to choose to make the person believe what you are doing to them rather than something else, and why you are to expect them to believe rather than to join in the pursuit of reducing every fraction of the unnecessary pain, so it still doesn’t mean that the disciplinarian should “believe” in anything.

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Writing the words “strive for excellence” on the wall would be hard on a child; in fact it would be hard on everyone. Words are coercion, except that the coerced have the option of blaming themselves besides obeying.

Don’t put inspirational signs on the walls or have them read any quotes, inspirational slogans, or anything like that. And don’t say things like “Strive for excellence.” It’s more like reminding them when they’re too lazy, rather than saying that you’re the judge who designates how lazy is too lazy, right? It’s not that you can’t say inspirational slogans, it’s just that they should be reserved for those who are actively seeking them, not for the wall.

They are by default going to use what you say as their pursuit, and it’s hard to say what’s wrong with the words—what’s wrong with doing better, right? Or even, what’s wrong with becoming better? It’s even more annoying if someone mixes some structure or demand for ideas into the quest to be better… So, you have to explicitly say to them that it’s a suggestion, and that it has no consequences, right. Otherwise, it’s not even easy for them to run away from your words although it’s their head…

Don’t say, “Comparing yourself to others is a sign of diligent discipline.” Don’t say that. That’s a hypothetical construction. You’re mixing the goal of “hard work” with the methods of “comparing yourself to others” and “discipline,” aren’t you? You don’t want to do that.

Teachers say things like that all the time. They’re professionals at making up manipulative words. Teachers always “have to” hide these things from parents. The construction of these words is their secret. They won’t tell outsiders, not even parents.

Even if you realize it’s not the only way, if you’re forced to listen to this stuff all day, you’re going to have a hard time. Because, even though you know that’s not the only way, why wouldn’t you try every way to get better? There’s no escape for you. It doesn’t matter if you say to yourself, I don’t want to strive to be better, and the fact that I hate the people who say these things in front of me, and I hate them to the point where I’m imagining hurting them, you’re still going to feel bad about yourself. So there’s not a lot I can do about that—I can only say to all you parents out there that there are people who do things to your children that you don’t realize.

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I don’t want to take only one of the two options. On the one hand, I want children to all have the choice to be people who don’t feel bad at any given moment without someone hitting them or having their fun taken away, and on the other hand, I want adults to stop forcing children to listen to criticisms of them, and the compromise is that the part of the criticisms that are forced on the child is telling the child what they don’t realize, and at most reminding the child of what they already know without making the person feel punished.

People fight these words in all sorts of ways, and I’ve chosen to post these things online, but really, no, I’m not disciplined anymore, I’m speaking for my past self.

It’s not easy to say the words. Saying something like what I’m saying gives me approval as well as the children who read it, and still convinces and gives children the ways to convince adults to be more indulgent in disciplining children. But there are some people who obviously feel the need for approval too, for example, about masturbation, and then go on to say something about how ancient people had masturbators too. Like, he himself feels he is boldly trying to break out of the discourse, but the people who see him seeking approval for himself in this way may even be thinking, “Wow, he cares so much about what I say, that means that my reprimands are working, and I’m going to reprimand him more to elevate him.”

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It is sad that children dare not skip school. If they dare to skip school, many, many children will realize that their parents are not as strict with them as their teachers imply. This is partly a problem of teachers giving children a wrong impression of parents, and partly a problem of parents sometimes not really realizing the extent of your pain until you skip school. Children must understand that their parents forcing them to go to school does not mean that their parents will treat them with the majesty, terror and rules and punishments of the school.

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Constraints are devastating. Being forced to do one thing can cause you to be unwilling to do five things you would otherwise do yourself. You are confronted with your rebellion. Suppose you are also forced to do those five things, because anger is an uncomfortable feeling, or you still try to accept the five things you would have done, or you decide to comfort your rebellion. Or, you’re just thinking subconsciously. Whatever the case may be, you realize that you can convince yourself that you can study hard for the good of others and not just yourself, you can try to convince yourself that teachers and parents are your employers, and you can try to convince yourself that you wouldn’t actually do those five things assuming no one is pushing you. Aware of these things frightens you, because your anger does not want to go away, and because these things may be the reason why others are willing to accept being constrained; whether consciously or not, you always inevitably ask yourself why you can’t be as obedient as they are. Another reason to feel fear is that you fear that accepting them will lead you to inadvertently accept what you are not forced to do, or to miss out on ideas that can be used to try and persuade the person constraining you. People criticize you every day with inadequate arguments, and you reflect on it with a hundred times the thought they did when they criticized you, so that you don’t feel as bad as being criticized. Lying to yourself or not thinking enough will not make you feel good either, because (1) they will point out tomorrow where you are deceiving yourself or underconsidering (albeit in the middle of 50 criticisms with insufficient reasons), and (2) one of the main reasons why this kind of thinking makes you feel better is that you use your thinking to persuade the person who restricts you in your imagination (although this communication does not have a chance to happen), and false or insufficient reflection does not reassure you. You are basically not using your reason for your own long-term good; you are using the unimaginable amount of self-reflection for those who are not vulnerable, to protect the part of you that is rebellious and saying, “You should be allowed to decide for yourself.”

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I talk a lot about these things now with you, and with Americans, and less with other Chinese. Because freedom is something that is more or less respected in your part of the world. One can choose to do what one wants, even if it has some problems for one in the long run, or even in the short run—that idea is not a human convention. I go and talk to Chinese kids about this, and some of them may kick themselves for choosing to listen to my sentences and for having the ideas I tell them in their heads. It’s not just that, there’s a deeper difference. The Chinese are much better at avoiding angry emotions, which leads to Chinese adults not feeling rebellious even after they have been given freedom, as some adults do. What kind of people do the Chinese find most rebellious? For adults, the Chinese feel that adults who forget the past are the most rebellious, rather than those who continue their quest for freedom as children are the most rebellious. Since adults are already free anyway, forgetting the past seems like the more indulgent and careless thing to do. Rebellion is a very tiring thing for a child to do. You’re tortured by anger in defense of your impulsiveness, laziness, and self-indulgence. In order to change the way adults treat you, you have to use your ability to think to some extent to convince them, and even face deeper self-contradictions. The Chinese child, being raised in a culture that excels at avoiding anger, is more likely to choose to control and try to ignore the feelings of anger, spending his free time playing video games, rather than seizing on his feelings of anger, rebelling and trying to change the way adults treat him. When I say that Chinese culture is good at avoiding anger, I don’t mean that teachers don’t get angry at their students. It is considered the teacher’s job to be angry at students, and teachers are considered obligated to act angry even when they aren’t in order to control children’s thoughts and behavior. That being the case, the teacher will choose to vent anger rather than control the anger and try to ignore it to resolve the anger. Another point I would add about anger is that Chinese culture is not only good at avoiding anger; it also emphasizes avoiding anger. If we say anger is seen by you as a willingness, then it can be said that anger is seen by the Chinese as a cost.

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What does the first day of school look like? It’s like the only chance you have to feel like you can skip school without feeling too ashamed because you haven’t been reprimanded by your teacher yet. This lost opportunity makes me feel remorseful.

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Why don’t parents starve their children instead of beating them? It’s just as hard to eat one meal for two days, no dying needed. Maybe his concentration will be an issue while he’s studying on those two days. But you could let them sleep outside and that might solve the attention problem, although it’s not necessarily so bad as to require a longer punishment. While lack of food and shelter is often a consequence of not working or working badly, the aforementioned discipline is still punishment, of course. If it were winter, this would have to be shortened, and it’s hard to say whether you’d want to take his clothes away or not.

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Distraction is a victory for slaves.

Schools are slavery. That’s the basic fact.

Extracurricular activities that children are forced to participate in are also slavery. The fact that some of those extracurricular activities are residential makes me even more disturbed.

When I went to college, at first, I lived in college. You get homesick. That feeling kind of clashes with how you feel about freedom. But the two sides of that conflict stack up and you feel a great fear—what would it be like if you didn’t live at home, but at the same time lived a disciplined life? What’s it like if you go to a boarding school, or to an extracurricular program that disciplines you and is residential, where running away is punished?

When an adult can do things to you, they will do things to you, and they will do all kinds of things to you. I have no trust in adults.

Some people say that means they’re right, because saying they’re wrong doesn’t change anything. But I’m not about to give up my advocacy career, and they’re wrong, they’re dead wrong. They are as wrong as slave owners, and they are, in fact, no more than slave owners who happen to be likely to do something good for the long-term interests of their slaves, a matter that does not prevent them from being immoral.

The children may find a way to escape and live on their own, without being fed by them, but that pursuit will certainly not persuade me to give up my advocacy career. Maybe my words would also make adult reprimands of children a tiny little bit less annoying.

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你可以离家出走，养活你自己。到18岁时，参加成人高考，这样你仍然可以上大学。很有可能，你的父母不会因为你离家出走而不给你钱上大学。

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Building China’s Dream, Happiness for Millions of Millions of Families

Is this a whiff of collectivism? Would it make you feel less like a reprimanded child if they replace the slogan on the bus with “Your happiness can only come from your own struggle”?

I mean, the latter type of signs do exist here as well, just not as many as the former, and some of them are also posted by the government.

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In China, if a student commits suicide due to academic pressure, people will say that this is due to insufficient discipline, which has led to the child’s mind being eroded by a “rebellious spirit.” Some people oppose this statement, but the reason for the opposition is always “With the development of the times, the trend of not liking to be disciplined is inevitable,” as if it would be a good thing if people worked together to stop this trend, and it is a pity that it cannot be realized.

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Adults don’t tell the truth. They say they want to fight “degenerate climate” and people applaud. They don’t say, “We’re going to forbid children from getting approval from their peers. Their only source of approval should be us, so that we can better discipline them. This is one of the reasons why those seemingly unnecessary constraints should not be eliminated, because students should shape the teacher’s authority by obeying the teacher, thereby showing other students that they cannot find approval for disobedience from other students.” Or, a simpler example: the word “spank”.

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As far as the current situation is concerned, going to the countryside is actually an attractive condition for many primary and secondary school students in China. The factors related to reprimand and punishment are of course the main factors. On the other hand, even if we do not consider psychological feelings, simply based on the working hours and labor intensity, the situation of primary and secondary school students, especially the latter, is often worse than that of farmers, especially considering the possibility of students being punished.

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If you were the ones who disciplined me, I would be isolated. Because you have a strong faith in the requirement to go to school on time every day, and you are not willing to try anything else by throwing the work of arguing the matter to others rather than yourself. Some conservatives are right to say that children are too obedient nowadays, but they don’t support more lenient treatment of children, so I can only support their literal meaning.

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I don’t know what people who keep their kids from homeschooling on the grounds of socialization think, but if you really believe that physical contact has the irreplaceable importance than the internet, you can send your homeschooled kids to learn together. Also, the child can push back on you to allow him to homeschool by not engaging with others at school, which may not be that hard for him, although you can indeed punish him for it.

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When a teacher says, “I’ve read many classical books,” or “I’m experienced in educating,” the meaning can shift depending on who’s listening. To parents, these words sound reassuring. It makes them think the teacher is wise, knowledgeable, and knows how to guide their children in the right direction. The focus is on trust and experience. Parents hear this and feel confident that the teacher will help their child improve.

But the reality for children is different. That same phrase — “I’ve read many classical books” — takes on another meaning. To kids, it signals authority, a justification for control and punishment. What feels like “guidance” to the parents often feels like discipline to the kids. Teachers still have the power to punish, and they do. Yet, when speaking to parents, they don’t focus on this aspect. The teacher doesn’t deny that they punish kids, but they don’t highlight it either.

There’s a gap between what parents pictures and what actually happens in the classroom. The teacher is about control and punishing, but this is clearer to the ones being controlled and punished—the children. Meanwhile, parents are convinced their child is simply being “guided.”

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When Chinese kids say “depressed”, what they’re really saying is often that the adults who discipline them are assholes (i.e., all Chinese people are assholes), and that those adults have succeeded in their goal of making them ashamed and feel bad about themselves in order to discipline them.

The few words on the Internet saying “Don’t scold people with depression” — those few words next to the more common articles and comments about “Today’s children lack discipline and are therefore too fragile” — those few words that appear guiltily on the screens of mobile phones that shouldn’t be played with, in between teachers’ daily routine scolding and discipline, after school at 10 o’clock in the evening—are all the validation they get.

Then, he would cry, because school didn’t end at 10 p.m. in elementary school, and he felt that he lied about “school ended at 10 p.m.” that he had never said, and his teacher criticized him for his never-expressed love for my post (which you are reading), and forced him with discipline and punishment, vowing to improve his character.

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If the school asks a child not to bring the MP3 to school, because listening to them between classes is also banned, or that this thing “simply should not appear in school”, and the child constantly refuses to obey, is there something wrong with the child? If you are a child and constantly refuses, then something is wrong with you, right? If the boss doesn’t allow that, but you still do this, there’s still nothing inherently wrong with you if that doesn’t affect you or others’ work, and they can fire you anyway, and you can leave, but there’s nothing inherently wrong with you, at least.

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If we still insist on compulsory education, or do not allow child labor and children’s freedom from their parents, then the children are slaves.

When articles, books, films, or the person in front of you praise the dignity or solemnity of teachers, they are actually praising the dignity or solemnity of the managers of slaves.

Punished children often ignore the option of running away. They really shouldn’t ignore it.

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Childhood is an extremely bad job because it doesn’t pay a wage but only the necessities, which means you’re faced with the choice between running away from home with nothing or being punished after skipping school, with no savings for you to rest and find work. We should pay children a salary of no less than the basic salary based on the time they are in school and doing homework.

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Even if you think it’s okay to copy the company bylaws, to be prohibited from leaving the company at lunchtime because of work delays—or standing up—and that company security locks you in the building during business hours, if you change jobs the leader of your old organization will suggest your parents to ask the police to arrest you back at your old company, and they do, and after which you get punishment, that doesn’t mean you should do it to your child, and I doubt you really think it’s okay to treat you that way. When you say that it’s the same for a child to be punished as it is for an adult to be punished for work delays, you’re just convincing yourself to escape the pain of remembering the past, and that you, or whomever you allow to discipline your child, will consciously capitalize on the difference between the two that you deny. The fact that you are docked money for delayed work without having to copy the company bylaws, that your boss and roommate do not therefore forbid you to sit down in your room but only to stand, and that you have the experience and sense of legitimacy of finding and renting your own room without fear of punishment in order to avoid the other person in the room, is a great privilege, and—if you insist this—is one of the places where your character is inferior to that of your children.

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Too low a suicide rate is not a good thing. You see, places with low suicide rates are places where people are ashamed of themselves and feel that others will still scold, discipline and uplift themselves and others when they die. So why would religious fanatics bomb a nightclub? It’s a show of force—you’re my child, I’m going to discipline you, even if you die, you won’t get away with it.

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Schools sometimes tend to exaggerate stories of rebellious truant children being beaten daily or even incarcerated in mental hospitals in an attempt to discourage and scare you away from the idea of truancy and, in some cases, to make you overestimate your parents’ determination to discipline you harshly. In fact, even if you run away from home and are beaten every time you have to go back to get food, this still does not prevent you from seeking to continue running away from home (for example, every day) in an attempt to influence your parents to discipline you more leniently.

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You know, if I ask you to hold a position for 5 minutes, will I find out and punish you for doing this for 4 1/2 minutes? Would I catch and punish you for relaxing a little bit? But really, what a pitiful, inadequate relief it is to be half a minute less, to relax a little bit, and to realize that you’re struggling for such a small relief is a pain in itself, but isn’t a pitiful, small relief worth fighting for?

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Students in China are scolded for feeling suicidal and told to be upbeat and positive and full of gratitude, so it’s not enough to want to kill yourself, you have to do it. What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, so you have to die to be free.

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Think of the “bad vibe” bashing—how schools want to culturally and emotionally manipulate kids, fearing that some kids will spoil the awe and shame of the school’s design.

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There is a question, why people are motivated to force others to be better, especially when they are not that person’s parents and are not employed by parents to do this to their children (the situations it is asking about include teachers going above and beyond what their job requires them to do). Do these people feel compelled to do this, or do they not feel compelled to do this, but simply choose to discipline others to try to make them better.

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Many people know this is not the case, but they still say so. Because they are afraid that more people will commit suicide if they tell the real reason.

By this ingenious way they avoided more deaths and negated the intentions of those who died.

As a rebellious teenager, seeing this phenomenon, I naturally hope that people who commit suicide in the future will make things clear before they die. Because my viewpoint is similar to that of those who commit suicide.

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Even if it is a matter of life and death, I choose not to maintain such a culture, just for the sake of the least number of deaths.

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I guess there are two things this has to say. First, freedom of speech is inviolable. The second is that one should be able to control what one’s ears hear, which should also be counted as a kind of freedom and inviolability.

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When teachers lectured students in the front of the classroom—saying something like “Complaining is a sign of lack of discipline” — I always wished someone would kill themselves; I was just not that brave. I don’t know why people support the majesty of teachers. If people are very fragile and commit suicide when they see a majestic teacher, then there will be no majestic teachers in the world.

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Is reflection and self-awareness more painful than being punished? Why would people rather not oppose the latter than try the former? I’m not saying you should be forced by the latter to choose the former; the former can be a choice you are free to make in your natural state. We can also teach another person the skills of self-restraint through conversation, and this is far from having to be done in a forced or reprimanding and shame-filled dialogue.

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Think of it this way. When you go to school, you study 10 hours a day. If you’re not constrained, you can study only what you need to, and 5 hours a day is enough. If you only need to study 5 hours a day, you don’t need any punishment or reprimand. You feel now that you can’t learn for 5 hours a day. That’s because you’re still disciplined and you feel angry and sometimes rebellious. And, even if you still need to study 10 hours a day, there are plenty of other ways to do that with no one constraining or punishing you. For example, find a friend to keep you company. Let’s say, hypothetically, that you have no idea what you need to learn and therefore you need to learn 15 hours a day after you leave school. Then you just go on to school. You don’t need to be punished or disciplined. You skip maybe 30% of the classes freely, and you use 10*30%*1.5=4.5(hr) to remedy that. 7+4.5=11.5(hr) per day.

You have just traded 1.5hr/day for freedom and still get the same result.

Still, find a friend to accompany you.

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Trying to force a child for the sake of the child is a major mistake made by human beings. The whole of our modern culture—the quest for recognition of others that is used to control our minds over the power of criticism from others, the aversion to flattery that both rebellion and self-restraint can lead to, the pleasure of criticizing others, and most of the offense and etiquette—are dangerously based on this error.

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If you were forced to study hard, why didn’t you deliberately find a less good job? It’s stupid, but if people did it, parents would have no reason to push their kids.

You can say that you don’t need such a good job, and you can also say that you won’t do that to your children again, but your words are more powerful only after you have turned down a good job.

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Westerners talk about socialization there all day long. Do they mean that people must be both tame and rebellious or they are not normal?

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When a parent sees that the school is having a field day, he only sees the spectacle, and the question of whether a student can choose to participate or not will never cross his mind.

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Obedience is nothing more than avoiding the punishment of the moment, or even indulging in an inexplicable fear of being punished. By the time he expresses it anyway, or disobeys anyway, it is because his anger at you has become so painful to him that it transcends the fear of being punished. This is why there is no calm rebelliousness.

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Individual and political freedoms should be unconditional; they should not be violated for the sake of economic development, nor should they be overridden by a majority or by the results of democratic elections. Or you’ll get Singapore.

Imagine you are in Singapore, where schools can whip students, demonstrations are restricted to just one place, and chewing gum is banned. Can you say that every Singaporean, for their part, chooses these things? People convince themselves to accept these things through an emphasis on rationality and discipline, but this is by no means the same as the consent and enthusiasm of BDSM participants, and there are those who refuse to convince themselves in this way.

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Seeing the name of a school will cause more pain in your heart than seeing the name of a company.

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There was a not very popular piece of news a couple of years ago. There was a school that had a counseling office. There was a student who went there, and I’m assuming that student was expressing dissatisfaction with the school or the teachers, but there was no disobedient behavior by that student. That school punished that student for neglecting his mental health and lacking the confidence to work hard at school. Quite a few other schools noticed the news and said they wanted to “promote” the care that the principal of the school in the news had for the student. There was a debate on the internet between those who believed that the very fact that schools have counselors in place affects students’ learning, and those who believed that the news shows that schools can use counselors to improve students’ learning. One day, shortly after this incident, my teacher scolded the class for no apparent reason, saying that we were too fragile and that the school’s leadership agreed with this, that the school was too permissive and that we should therefore accept the school’s management of us. I don’t know if his reprimand had anything to do with the news. Also, whenever there was news about traffic accidents or fires, or news about China’s economic development, or the change of seasons, the teachers would always say, “Therefore,” or “Further,” we, who had been corrupted and spoiled, should be obedient and study hard. No one talked about what that meant, because talking about what it meant seemed to justify the discipline of our language teacher, who understood how to use conjunction words correctly.

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One way the Chinese use words to make some children miserable is that they will not say that these people’s objections are an opinion, or even just say that they will treat these people according to their ideas anyway. They will say that opposition is a “problem” and the solution is to discipline these people more, improve their character, change their perspective, get them to accept things so they won’t object and everyone is happy in the end. The painful thing about this is that even though you are unwilling to change your perspective, they are still constantly reminding you that there is another path, and that is for you to “accept” or “improve your character.” You are constantly reminded of such “other paths,” and you do suffer because of your opposition to them, but this reminder does not allow you to accept it painlessly, but only increases your self-contradiction, anger, opposition, and pain. It can be said that the failure of this situation is that the rape is not strong enough or lacks skill, so there are still people who are opposed to it and are unhappy. This statement cannot be called untrue. You have indeed failed to improve my character and made me suffer because I did not accept you. But I am afraid that the inspiration given to me at this time is not that I hope you can succeed in improving my character, but the opposite.

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The Chinese don’t belong to themselves, they belong to the traditional culture and the people the government hires to write in the newspapers all day long. The Chinese are spanked by these two things all day long to improve their character, prolong their lives and cultivate immortality. There’s the teacher, who makes up new words to scold his students all day long, as if he were making up new chapters for the Bible all day long.

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If I were in one of those schools and the teacher knew I was talking to you, he’d probably tell me that my association with you corrupted my character, assuming you didn’t leave the school at 10 p.m., because it’s dangerous and shameful to be around people who don’t try as hard as you do.

You can’t go wrong with that, can you? One of the reasons I would have wanted to interact with people my own age was that being around people who didn’t ask me to work as hard as a farmer did 200 years ago would have more or less undone the shame that my teachers gave me, so it’s fair to say that I squandered the opportunity to use that shame to spur myself on.

But do I care about that opportunity? No, of course I don’t care.

“Being in a fish market and not feeling the stench after smelling it for a long time” (入鲍鱼之肆，久闻而不知其臭) was something I wanted to do at the time but could not.

Freedom, of course, includes not being intentionally prevented from choosing a degrading environment so that one does not feel compelled to “improve one’s character.” Our desire to be able to choose to be lazy and undisciplined—even if it may not be the best in the long run—is so strong that it must be worth the “freedom” label.

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For many conservatives around the world, a self-sufficient adult would still not be considered entitled to speak for his childhood self in advocating for less harsh discipline. Instead, they believe that those adults still don’t understand what they needed as children and believe that tougher discipline is the answer to the reasons why these adults who are calling for the opposite are calling for it.

So adults who call for less harsh discipline should make it clear that, in the end, they are making such a call not because of the ill effects of childhood discipline on their present, but because of the ill effects of childhood discipline on their past.

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I wonder how adults who are reprimanded by their bosses for not completing their work assignments, who are called shameless and ungrateful, who are then made to copy things down, or write lengthy reviews to be read aloud in public, and who would be punished in this way for arriving two minutes late, for a stern look, for a joking remark, and for entering and exiting through the back door of the office instead of the front door, and, in the case of office workers, who are not able to get up from the seat without being punished in this way, and are punished in this way for having unauthorized conversations with co-workers, would feel.

It’s the first job the vast majority of people in the world do, for more than a decade. You can’t save up any money to prepare for a change of job, and besides, it’s a shameful, shocking move for everyone around you, and one that leads to punishment. Kids are the only ones who get punished for quitting their jobs.

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Sometimes the child tells his parents that something the teacher said or did was not “right”, and the parents tell the child that there is nothing wrong with the teacher and that the teacher is doing what is good for the students. That child feels that if my parents don’t support me in even a small thing, then they will only be stricter in bigger things. But the parent may have assumed that the child wasn’t suffering because the only dissatisfaction the child showed was in questioning the details without greater disobedience. Or they may just “look down” on people who just talk and act timidly—if that makes sense for the relationship between the disciplinarian and the child.

You can’t say that the child doesn’t need more freedom because there is no greater disobedience—isn’t it you, or someone you delegate to, who is doing with escalating punishments, regulations on rituals, and a thousand other ways to intentionally keep the child from being more disobedient by imposing fear on them?

Children should not forget that no matter how much the school teacher emphasizes character development, or emphasizes the necessity of punishment and uses escalating punishment to stop you from continuing to disobey—he asked you to write a 5,000-word self-criticism, you wrote 4,000 words, he asked you to write a further 20,000 words of self-criticism—no matter how their punishment of other children is shown to you, has happened to you, or what you can perceive from the threats, you are not fed by the school teacher, your parents may be more lenient and indulgent to you than what the school teacher suggests, or what you feel from the rejection of your parents that your cautious probing has brought you. No matter how the school wants to assure you that the truant child will be severely punished, your parents will ultimately decide the matter, even in those places where the law theoretically prohibits truancy.

Even if you fail, the school may not force your parents to punish you severely, and even if you feel that most of the fear and discipline comes from the school rather than your parents, your parents’ lack of support for severe punishment is all you need.

Just say you don’t want to go to school when you get up. See what happens. You can’t just assume that harsh punishment will happen to you without even trying.

Words 21

1/3

It is unacceptable for the state to require universities to accept only students who have “normally” graduated from primary and secondary schools. This means that even good children must be slaves.

2/3–1

People who are asked to compare themselves to people from the past always have to do so sincerely, and asking others to do so is always more manipulative than sincere, because if reality requires us to work harder, it’s not like we have to learn anything by comparing ourselves to people from the past, but it’s an effective way to make people feel bad about themselves.

Regardless of the historical facts and how sincerely you are making such comparisons, the pain and sense of persecution you feel from them usually stems primarily from the fact that others are asking you to make such comparisons. Ultimately, you can’t prove that you’re not too much lazier than the ancients, nor can you honestly say that you’re doing your best, but running away from those who are asking you to make such comparisons and do more is always an effective way to pursue happiness.

But there are always people who can’t escape such things. So I have to emphasize, on the one hand, to those of you who have been manipulated in this way, but who have had to be honest with yourselves, that the children of antiquity did not work as hard or as obediently as they were claimed to be, and that, especially in terms of the number of hours of discipline per day and in terms of the total number of years of discipline, many of them did not have a great deal of time to spend on discipline, and that, for two reasons amongst many, they had to, or preferred to, and were given the opportunity to work, and on the other hand, emphasize to those of you who are manipulating others that asking children to compare themselves to others is usually not the gentlest of all effective methods, and emphasize that words can be illiberal, since children, after all, don’t have the means to leave the room while you are talking.

2/3–2

But on the other hand, some adults are deliberately saying things that don’t make sense so as to cause children pain, so much pain that they give up on fighting back in their heads and just obey for validation, or in fact are forced to obey by being verbally punished, aren’t they?

3/3

You know, a kinda wild thing is that some people are criticizing body shaming, or feeling offended by all kinds of criticisms of themselves, or resentful of society’s demands for economic development, or religious, cultural, traditional, etc. demands for character enhancement, like I do, but don’t acknowledge that they feel like a child, or don’t realize that it’s because they’ve been a child. Then the disciplinarian sees this and says to himself, “You know what? This is what I’m trying to accomplish. Let me continue to manipulate the children in this way so that 20 years from now they will be equally distressed for reasons unknown to them, or unwilling to recognize that they feel like a child.”

Words 22

Do you feel like a child afraid of discipline when you read words like dispirited or dejected?

Like, “decadent”. This is a harsher word, I guess.

So… I think the Chinese word is very graphic. The Chinese equivalent is “颓废” (decadent), isn’t it? So you get the image of a teenager who skips school and plays video games all day. In fact, you have a much stronger impression than that; you would in fact have… what impression would you have? No, you don’t have a clear impression. I think a lot of people have the impression of a horror movie full of blood. That’s weird. I don’t know where such impressions come from. People would also think it has something to do with rockers from the last century or something like that.

Also, Chinese words can be split. So can English words; Wiktionary says:

From French décadent, a back-formation from décadence (see -ent), from Medieval Latin dēcadentia, from Late Latin dēcadēns, present participle of dē cadō, dēcidō (“sink, fall; perish”), from Latin dē- + cadō (“fall”).

I suspect most people don’t know it. The Chinese word splitting is easy, because it’s just two characters, “颓” and “废”. What does the first word mean? Actually, the Chinese don’t know what else to use the first character for except in the word decadence. The second word means dilapidated or waste. So, this seems to be more than just a language problem. It’s certainly not just a matter of language; that’s obvious. It’s a problem of impression. Extreme images get added to situations that are not extreme—to the point where people don’t even know what the so-called extreme image is, but just an image of a blood-covered face—in the mind of the disciplinarian, in the mind of the disciplined. This is obviously intentional. It’s like hyperbolic rhetoric, but penetrating language and striking at the heart.

So, some people say stereotypes are good. Making people think they’re worse off than they really are is motivation to forge ahead, right? It would be more accurate to say that this has the potential to be an incentive to forging ahead.

It’s tricky, isn’t it? For example, you can’t just say that the student who didn’t do his homework will die if he indulges in drug use, because then the core meaning of the word is untrue, that kid won’t feel too bad about himself for it, and the teacher might even be criticized by his parents for doing so. So the teacher has to use words like “depraved” and “decadent” so that the child’s own mind creates the image of a drug-addicted, blood-covered death, so that the word itself doesn’t come out wrong, and so that the child feels like he or she can’t escape from the word, right?

So by calling your teacher Hitler, you’re parroting the surface of conservatives offending people and adults criticizing children, and you’re not learning the essence.

Even if you learn the essence, it doesn’t mean things are “equal” or something for four reasons. First, the teacher spends far more time criticizing you at you than you do criticizing the teacher at him, and you can’t leave while he’s reprimanding you; second, the teacher is saying things to try to uplift you in all areas, and your objections to him are focused only on the point of objecting to the fact that he’s putting pressure on you; and third, he’s trying to uplift you, and you’re not trying to uplift him even if you do object to it, you’re objecting to the fact that he’s trying to uplift you; and the language itself is something that tends to discipline rather than rebel-a person who has never been disciplined does not have to say rebellious things; a person who intends to discipline will say disciplinary things; fourth, the discipline you receive is not just criticism; you receive other constraints and penalties that make the words of criticism even more difficult for you.

A Sign

I have something I would like to say about the discipline and hard work aspects you mentioned. I’m Chinese, and religion hasn’t been as significant in my experience as yours, but shame is certainly significant. I’m guessing that that people—including me, of course—spend an astonishing amount of time (and in many cases more than work) playing with electronics has something to do with some shame. Of course, shame is more about what others impose on you, especially considering that you can’t leave the classroom at will when the teacher is reprimanding the students, giving motivational speeches, emphasizing discipline and saving time, and promoting rules and punishments. I feel that China’s primary and secondary schools are to a certain extent like schools in other parts of the world, and religions in other parts of the world. In addition to planting the seeds of hard work and punishing laziness, they also sow the seeds of rules and discipline — although they are not really clearly linked to hard work (in principle, people can also work hard when they don’t follow schedules, clothing, etc., and the punishment for laziness doesn’t have to be based on rules). Did I become a harder worker? No. Maybe it was because of my anger at being restrained, or because I spent 4 years lazily in college, or, as people say, the result of a lack of discipline. People will talk about whether you want to mitigate it to gain the other person’s buy-in, or break the other person’s rebellion, or use some combination of the two, if it’s not as effective because of “rebellion”. People seem to live a fake life, not making choices for themselves, but confusing the difficulties of real life with the punishment that others deliberately give them when they are not really hurting others. I think a culture that doesn’t distinguish between the two is immoral — of course, if you distinguish between the two and support the purpose of constraining others without them harming other people as their “character enhancement” or for some other purpose, then it’s also an immoral culture. I can’t prove that this will do more harm than good, but I love freedom—or more accurately, hate the opposite.

I guess it’s mostly American here. Then I want to say to you: I don’t believe in the vast majority of constraints on children, I don’t think adults should have that much power, and I believe that children’s freedom is also important. Most parents probably don’t think the same way I do. If, unfortunately, things go as I have already mentioned, I have an indulgent desire: I want every child to have some at least a few months, without facing any tasks, constraints, disciplines, reprimands or punishments, just playing with their phones for weeks on end, and, I advise them to think about their freedom, to be able to feel that they should be allowed to have freedom even as children, and, I advise—only advise—to make some attempts to learn without constraints and completely as willing freely.

If I am to speak to people here, I can’t use expressions like these. Some children are ashamed of any words, even “rebellious” words, because any words will be used to “spur” them. I have to be more rebellious and angrier to express my opinions, and be to its full.

When Chinese children see a sign on a train, they will feel ashamed that they have not worked hard to learn geography and calligraphy, just because the sign is a place name printed out by a printer. This is far from a true intrinsic motivation; shame is far from a free choice that a person can control at will.

How does multiculturalism relate to freedom? (part of the story)

When people are little, they think, “If being rebellious is going to make me feel worse, why not try to change my psychology.” When they grow up, they think, “Since I’m not a kid anymore, why don’t I push them?”

The hope lies in rebellious kids having their own culture in which people comfort and express approval of each other, don’t interact with offensive other cultures, and ignore some facts — if we’re not sure about being comfortable and rebellious even after realizing facts that don’t fit or potentially don’t fit our ideas.

I don’t have to be willing to get into the broader politics, but the government is lecturing the people, like a parent lecturing a child, and like an Asian parent lecturing a child, mixing “the government has to protect the people from self-indulgence” with “the government has to propagate altruism among the people”, and apparently apparently the two are being intentionally confused as one thing.

As a Chinese person, I have never felt Western culture have a “rational root”, but rather something to do with rebellious children. However, egoism has never had a “rational root” either, but an adult who does not give wholeheartedly to others is unlikely to feel much shame about it.

From a very young age, I longed for teachers and schools that wouldn’t punish me or make demands and rules on me, but would help me get better (if they insisted) on my terms, and I would have been able to comfortably expose my vulnerabilities and laziness, comfortably deal with problems, and skip over inefficient learning in that kind of relationship.

I was a “character enhancement” person as a child, but only insofar as I did things to my own psyche; I objected to that kind of coercion from the first time I encountered someone who said they were going to enhance my character through discipline and punishment.

They emphasized reverence for discipline, for punishment, the majesty of the teacher. I could not prove that their approach was harmful to my long-term interests, although even then I believed that even if it was beneficial, I should be free to reject it.

Their claims that what adults do is “thoughtful” and based on “deep traditions and cultures” and that seemingly unnecessary things can also “foster respect for rules” and “enhance character” have given me a lot of painful pauses. At the other end of the spectrum, I want to be free of all constraints, not just unhelpful constraints.

The pain of being forced to “regulate myself” and of rationality’s incessant questioning of why I don’t do better (even if that “better” takes into account the cost of rationality itself) had given me a strong intuition. This intuition was a passion for impulse, for freedom from reason, and for the freedom to make one’s own choices without interference.

As opposed to what they did to me, I naturally felt a longing for intimate and unaugust relationships at the time. What I learned about the gay movement that was happening in other parts of the world after I went to middle school, while having nothing to do with my situation, served as a symbol, as a phrase, that was of tiny comfort to me. It also inspired me to talk to my peers more, to try to use the words of my peers to counteract the bad feelings that rules, punishments and teachers’ criticisms had caused me. However, I didn’t get a lot of comfort from my peers as they generally approved of the teacher.

I hate and object against schools.

When Retailing Can Express an Objection

I remembered something. I remembered so many, many things, like those teachers who said that false information proved that children needed discipline to improve their scientific literacy, and how many, many ways of thinking became comforting and then exploited by the teachers or created more self-contradiction.

For example, a teacher used a conspiracy theory argument one day to support discipline and punishment of students, you go home, hug yourself, cry, comfort yourself and say “conspiracy theories are bad”, the next day the teacher says that the prevalence of conspiracy theories proves a lack of discipline and punishment of the students, and a student tells the teacher that his statement the day before was a conspiracy theory, and then the teacher will say that “in order to avoid such inconsistencies in human beings, one needs discipline and restraint during one’s time as a student”, and that “this reflective nature of the student is proof of the success of his education and of the depth of Chinese culture embedded in discipline”, but “If you continue to be disruptive and interfere with the normal management of the class, then you will be punished” and the last sentence does not become the first sentence of the teacher’s response proving the virtue of mercy.

A Part of Rebelliousness

Constraints are devastating. Being forced to do one thing can cause you to be unwilling to do five things you would otherwise do yourself. You are confronted with your rebellion. Suppose you are also forced to do those five things, because anger is an uncomfortable feeling, or you still try to accept the five things you would have done, or you decide to comfort your rebellion. Or, you’re just thinking subconsciously. Whatever the case may be, you realize that you can convince yourself that you can study hard for the good of others and not just yourself, you can try to convince yourself that teachers and parents are your employers, and you can try to convince yourself that you wouldn’t actually do those five things assuming no one is pushing you. Aware of these things frightens you, because your anger does not want to go away, and because these things may be the reason why others are willing to accept being constrained; whether consciously or not, you always inevitably ask yourself why you can’t be as obedient as they are. Another reason to feel fear is that you fear that accepting them will lead you to inadvertently accept what you are not forced to do, or to miss out on ideas that can be used to try and persuade the person constraining you. People criticize you every day with inadequate arguments, and you reflect on it with a hundred times the thought they did when they criticized you, so that you don’t feel as bad as being criticized. Lying to yourself or not thinking enough will not make you feel good either, because (1) they will point out tomorrow where you are deceiving yourself or underconsidering (albeit in the middle of 50 criticisms with insufficient reasons), and (2) one of the main reasons why this kind of thinking makes you feel better is that you use your thinking to persuade the person who restricts you in your imagination (although this communication does not have a chance to happen), and false or insufficient reflection does not reassure you.

I just thought of something else. Some people say that school teaches self-discipline. I don’t support unnatural consequences by any means, whether or not primary and secondary schools can teach self-discipline.

To take a step back, I don’t think forcing a person can teach a person self-discipline. And even if it worked, it wouldn’t be necessary, because it’s perfectly possible for a child to learn self-discipline by facing natural consequences after work—if one has to use the expression “learning self-discipline”. I’m in college now, and the busiest days of college aren’t nearly as busy as 1/3 of primary and secondary schools here, and most importantly, no one punishes or shames me. I still have to do things to graduate and push myself to do things sometimes. I realised that I could say to myself, “I went through so much in primary and secondary school, I just need to emulate what I did then, but do college tasks as I wish.” That thought really scared me. Although, I could argue that just because I push myself in this way doesn’t mean I’m in favour of primary and secondary school; I’d rather I didn’t have primary and secondary school experiences to draw on, but primary and secondary school experiences are a fait accompli. But, no, I’m not going to rush myself by recalling my primary and secondary school experiences. To take a step back, a month or two of experience can provide experience, not 12 years of primary and secondary school. Taking another step back, one may feel rebellious and try to deliberately lose the ability to exercise self-discipline that one gets from primary and secondary school. People can be so in love with freedom that after they get it, they still, sometimes, choose to destroy what others have built in them that could have been of use to them.

When criticism turns back into information/advice

As far as one’s own affairs are concerned, criticism should not be imposed on others, but should only appear when people actively seek it. But the trauma caused by the school and some parents is so great that people don’t use the word “criticism” when they ask friends or experienced people if there is anything wrong with what they are doing. People must put an end to the status quo, stop the unsought comments, and let criticism reappear only in situations where people actively seek it.

“Learning State” and Conservatives

I think what the Chinese call children’s “learning state” refers to is “just do it, don’t use your attention to feel dissatisfied.” This is also the attitude of conservatives in various countries. The risk that removing unnecessary restraints from a child might lead to the child becoming aware of unsatisfactoriness is considered to outweigh the benefits of conserving more freedom.

Why cultures are immoral

Chinese are the best at accepting the persecution of others. So I’m not qualified to be a Chinese. Feel that there is no point in a constraint? Just call it character enhancement. Freedom-loving people will say that character enhancement is a guise for meaningless constraints, and freedom-haters will say that there are no meaningless constraints, because all restraints are character enhancement. Immorality happens when there are a handful of freedom-loving people who should be ashamed and whose characters need to be improved in a freedom-hating culture, because your existence provides their victims. However, a culture of morality has not yet been born. Because even those cultures where people allow others not to lose themselves ignore the fact that the expression “losing oneself” is meaningless without the constant demands for the character improvement of others in the first place.

Why did we hate conservatives in the first place?

The Mental Health Forum is a Western cultural invasion because it makes people think about things that make them feel bad instead of focusing on improving their character in the vast and profound Chinese culture, and it is a cultural weapon used by Western forces to undermine the character of the Chinese in order to suppress China, as evidenced by the high suicide rate caused by their own unrestricted freedom.

“Adapting to Society”

Why should a person go to school every day, even if he wants to study on his own that day, or simply feels that he does not need to learn more that day… People just “accept,” “adapt,” or “acquiesce” to this, which makes me feel disturbed…

You can’t say it’s “adapting to society”. If a person wants to participate in such a job, simulating such a life a month or two in advance is called adaptation; simulating such a life more than ten years in advance is just stupid and unnecessary.

Anger as Punishment

The fact that a reprimand can be a punishment certainly has the relatively plain “let you find out what’s bad about yourself” part of it, but it’s also saying, “I know you won’t accept this, but you still have self-contradiction, so you’re going to feel bad about it, and I’m going to use that to punish you, and I’m even going to use your feelings of anger and rebellion to punish you. Make you feel annoyed due to your anger and rebellion against me as a punishment.”

From punishing one’s rebellion in order to avoid one feeling rebellious, to using one’s rebellion as a punishment for oneself.

Traditional Culture

You know, when someone criticizes your views and ideologies every day because you haven’t read a lot of traditional culture classics, you can get really caught up in self-contradiction and anger. When you leave those people, you find that everything is fine. I guess the other option is to work overtime to read the traditional cultural classics, and then argue with the adults that you read them, but still hold on to your views and ideologies, but to be honest, they don’t care, they will still discipline you, and considering that the traditional cultural classics are basically praising the child’s spirit of obedience, this is not a good deal for you.

They are really constantly trying to convince you that your point of view is the result of a bad character, something that needs to be improved, and cannot be used as a basis for decision-making. For example, they just say that video games are drugs, so students’ opinions are a manifestation of delirium and passivity, and that reading classic books or watching the news can prove that what they are doing to students is reasonable, profound, and reflects the profound wisdom of traditional culture. I say this as if you really have a chance to make your point. No, you certainly don’t get to make your point unless you want to write a 5000-word self-criticism. They’re doing “preventative character development” or something.

I remember people saying children shouldn’t know about metal commemorative coins because “‘commemorative coins’ are an unconventional use of money, and this unconventional suggestion is not good for the child’s development”. I also remember my high school teacher reprimanding us because she wanted to counteract the “psychological turmoil caused by the replacement of the trash cans in the class.”

It’s hard to prove that their claims are not true, and the trouble is that I can say that what they’re doing is ridiculous, but people don’t necessarily have to reduce the criticism and punishment of their children; they can point the criticism and punishment at not studying hard, worsened by “the turmoil in the minds of students caused by garbage cans, which students should not use as excuse” or something like that.

“You use the emoji in the forum as a reply to me, aren’t you afraid that this unserious behavior has eroded your habits and character? Not to mention that emoji further strengthens the degeneration of people’s ability to express themselves in words. These people who do not understand the breadth and depth of traditional culture will benefit from being reprimanded, rather than lazily using this mental health forum that leads people into frivolity.”

Then, you really hope that the person who said this is just disappointed that the people on the forum don’t care about him, and is not really intent on uplifting your life, otherwise it will be too painful for you.

Then you’ll find that even if the other person is only unhappy with the forum, you still feel bad about yourself. You want to convince others more thoroughly not to reprimand you, not based on “sometimes others are dissatisfied with themselves and don’t really care about you”, and this “drilling” and pursuit of thoroughness in you is considered a rebellious illness, further justifying their education on you.

When I see a person lamenting that abused children still have a hard time in adulthood distinguishing them from the discipline for children, I want to say that there is really no such distinction and that I have more faith in (even the child’s) right to self-determination.

Orgasm

I remember when I told my parents that the school was terrible, they told me to study hard so that I could become the Secretary of Education in the future and make a difference. Also, they wanted me to accept school as it was in order to study hard and reach that goal.

So that you can see why sex becomes a symbol of some kind of self-liberation, that other approaches towards indulgence may still involve something that requires planning and effort, orgasm is the closest thing to indulgence that doesn’t require any effort.

It’s not lack of innovation; it’s called insanity.

Attention is an issue, I guess? But some people don’t say it outright. People are like, “Let’s not talk about the whole letting kids choose whether to go to school or not every day thing, so that kids will accept going to school in order to see their peers and not think of any other possibilities (even though they must have thought of other possibilities on their first day of school).”

It’s such an obvious thing. I don’t know if people really can’t think of other possibilities, or they avoid talking about them. The most outrageous thing is that the child must be able to think of other possibilities, but is certainly afraid to talk about them.

The kid has been doing this for over a decade and the parents haven’t thought of any other possibilities.

And the child is afraid to talk about it for over a decade.

People are afraid to even try. People are afraid of their children tasting freedom. Where you are, it doesn’t matter what’s taught in school for a month or two months or six months, but people still don’t try.

It has nothing to do with lack of innovation; it’s called insanity.

But it’s not insanity for a child. Since you are asking him to do something, you must be thoughtfully improving his character. A child would think this way.

People see dropouts failing, so they support the schools. But what is clear is that either people would rather fail than continue learning, or staying in school is a prerequisite for a parent’s willingness to support his child’s learning.

“Live in the Moment”

The truth is, rebellion isn’t just about short-term gain. If it is the whole rebellion, then I should be playing computer games right now instead of talking to you about these. As another example, if rebellion is purely for short-term gain, there is no reason for a child to rebel because it would lead to them being punished to the detriment of their short-term gain.

You could certainly argue that the desire to express anger outweighs the pain of being punished and therefore represents their short-term interests. However, I like another way of saying that rebellion is the pursuit of freedom from the constraints of others. Because if I use the first definition, I seem to be suggesting that parents can compensate for their child’s short-term interests in other ways (e.g., a buffet) and continue their discipline on their child, while still count as permitting the child’s rebellion. Which obviously wouldn’t be to my liking.

Chinese don’t think so. What do Chinese mean when they say live in the moment? The Chinese mean that you live in the moment in order to maintain still the fear of being punished, in order not to rebel for your freedom.

Of course I wouldn’t say it’s my obligation; otherwise I’d have to feel bad because I didn’t study hard enough to be the Secretary of Education.

Before Dinner

I just heard someone shouting outside. I went out to look for them and didn’t find the person who shouted. Perhaps the situation was that the man’s intuition told him that he feels quite a bit of pain and that things aren’t worth it anymore, but he questioned why he couldn’t take in more and “elevate his character.” I just went to call out, trying to find him. I didn’t know what words to use. I could have yelled, “Anyone there?”, but it sounded like I was trying to reprimand him to get him to accept something. I could yell, “Are you okay?”, but I don’t mean for him to stick around or “improve his character” in order to be more “okay” ten years later. I want him to have choices now, to feel better now, and not by “accepting” something he doesn’t like now. He’ll be home before long, probably feeling good about dinner and playing on his phone in the middle of the night. Maybe the person who yelled wasn’t a rebellious child, and then this thing wouldn’t matter much to me.

Left-Handedness and Disobedience

School is the worst place. You can’t choose where to sit or you’ll be punished. If you move the desk, the teacher scolds you like crazy. Not to mention the other 1000 rules and homework.

If that teacher didn’t like where you placed your books or if your foreign language book appeared on your desk during math class, he has started yelling at you for your low character and then threatened to use discipline to improve your character.

Or he asks you to do a certain practice problem and you’re reading some other part of the book or working on some other problem, and then you’re threatened and they say they’re going to punish you.

I am shocked at the matter that someone would have the desire to dictate every move someone else makes.

The classroom has two doors. They specify which door you go through.

And then you ask why. Then they say that you should be grateful for having a house instead of being rained on, that without rules society would collapse, and also that he is shocked that you brought this up and thinks that you lack discipline and that your character is going down the drain.

I can’t prove him wrong about those statements. It’s unlikely that there’s a study to look at the effect on character of walking through two doors or one. And even if there were a study that showed that walking through one door had a better “impact” or effect on character than walking through two doors, what would that mean?

Also, there might be something taped to the wall. Even if the students don’t like that thing, you can’t remove it. And, for example, the tape came off one of the corners of that thing, and at that time the students were scared. They were afraid that if they taped it back on, then they were moving something they weren’t supposed to; but if they didn’t tape it back on, it was a lack of collective responsibility. You do not like that thing, so that means you may wish to take it off, but you have no way to take it off, so that makes you a little bit conflicted, and you somehow feel as if you should put the tape back on and win the teacher’s heart. It was then that the teacher, seeing that the thing had lost a corner, scolded us with a shocked look on her face, saying that we were cowardly and depraved, and that truly courageous people should carefully tape it back on to prevent it from falling off again, and then began to bemoan our lack of social responsibility. That taped thing was probably an inspirational quote or something.

So you might want to use that excuse to rip it out, but you’re afraid that your teacher will do a motivational speech along the way when she glues it back in. If you’re resisting the urge to rip it down in case your teacher gives a motivational speech tomorrow, why don’t you try to like that motivational quote and develop the character to work hard to prepare for 20 years from now? In a school like that, you’d be pestered with similar thoughts basically every hour.

What are people arguing about when arguing about optimism and pessimism

(Part of the story)

Some people want mental illness rates to be higher, or suicide rates to be higher, because they think it would lead to less discipline. Some want the opposite because they fear someone intends to lower these things through disciplinary methods. From the perspective of supporting their wishes, we do not necessarily want these two indicators to decrease, because a decrease in these two indicators may mean that they are changing or mean that the things they want to change are changing.

Suppose there is news, in fact there is such news, saying that the academic level of Chinese students is high. Some people will like this news because they think it means we can relax our discipline; some people will not like this news because they think this success will become an argument to support the discipline of Chinese students.

So you can see, there’s definitely a lot of debate about patriotism. If you take pleasure in a bad situation, people seem justified in hating you. One excuse is that you’re not rejoicing in a bad situation; you’re just emphasizing the bad aspects of the situation to make people better. There are two things that are ironic. One is that you are saying that you are doing a kind of encouragement, but in fact you are opposed to something similar; the other is that you can realize that emphasizing bad situations comes from being happy about bad situations rather than other reasons. It actually means that you feel the same as him.

Another similar thing is optimism and pessimism. Some people hate optimistic people because optimistic people say things should tend to be resolved by being more optimistic rather than changing the situation according to these people’s wishes; some people hate pessimistic people because pessimistic people say things are bad and these people need to suffer for the sake of the future.

But this cannot be said directly. You can’t say you hate optimistic people or pessimistic people; what can you say? You can only criticize those optimistic people and pessimistic people for not being consistent with the facts, or that their character needs to be improved. You are their character enhancer and therefore the good side.

People express their emotions in a distorted way. It can be difficult to express your emotions openly in an environment where others are against you, and you won’t receive support even if you express them. But the risk of using subterfuge and distorted expressions of emotion is that the words may come back against your will, or add more complexity to the argument, and complexity may not necessarily favor nonmainstream views.

I’m talking about the complexity in the argument. As for the complexity of the matter itself, it may actually favor nonmainstream views.